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  A Korean Tragedy

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. friends

  the modern history is full of deep, dark tragedies.

  and, my intention, as i sat down to write of those tragedies for a fb page i look after for a macquarie university student society, was to tell the story of these very dark contemporary events.

  but east asia history is complex and i think its helpful to try to have an overview of that history to understand what has happened in the recent past.

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  Bungi Bill

  What did the Japanese get in return? In return the Americans recognized that Imperial Japan could take over Korea.

  fulltimestudent, thanks for posting that - certainly a fact that is otherwise kept very quiet!

  The whole business could be placed under the heading of "Great Power Politics" - something that is certainly not unique to the Korean Peninsula. In other places - such as Western Papua - the victims get ignored and the matter quietly forgotten about. For a variety of reasons, though, not the case with Korea; where it periodically comes back to bite the participants on the backside!
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  Is this a World Wide Pattern?

  by Slidin Fast in

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  hundreds baptized at jehovah's witness convention.

  at first sight this afican rc looks as though it's acheiving the quantity of baptisms of another era.

  348 is a substantilal number and impressive until you see the sunday attendance 28,300. so a baptism rate of 1.2%, in africa.

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  There was a time when they used to trumpet-up the "increase" as further evidence that the JWs - and only the JWs - had "The Truth". Fewer and fewer straws to grasp at now, it would seem!
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  "exjws" and money making Ponzi schemes.

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok i want to pose a question to those who care to discuss this.. imagine a scenario.

  you hear of a exjw writing a book, however, before writing this book this exjw is requesting money to publish said book.

  you go along with it and help to get this book out to the public as you think that it will be beneficial.

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  Bungi Bill

  When an individual elevates themself to the top of the cause, they eventually become the cause.

  All too often the case in Trade Union circles, but can also apply elsewhere!
  
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  A Korean Tragedy

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the modern history is full of deep, dark tragedies.

  and, my intention, as i sat down to write of those tragedies for a fb page i look after for a macquarie university student society, was to tell the story of these very dark contemporary events.

  but east asia history is complex and i think its helpful to try to have an overview of that history to understand what has happened in the recent past.

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  Bungi Bill

  fulltimestudent,

  Interesting, and we look forward to hearing further!
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  Was there really a specific request for money in this week's meeting?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen a few comments about this week's meeting.. was there actually a part that specified an actual per-publisher amount that should be donated regularly?.

  can this be confirmed please?.

  i truly cant believe just how brazen the society seems to be getting - and how desperate they are!.

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  Bungi Bill

  So this lot have progressed from saying "our church don't do that sort of thing" to taking the stance "Christendom does it, so it is all-right for us too."

  Bloody Hell! I obviously haven't missed out on much in the 23 years since I broke with them.
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  Was there really a specific request for money in this week's meeting?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have seen a few comments about this week's meeting.. was there actually a part that specified an actual per-publisher amount that should be donated regularly?.

  can this be confirmed please?.

  i truly cant believe just how brazen the society seems to be getting - and how desperate they are!.

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  Bungi Bill

  And how they once used to lambast the "Churches of Christendom" for doing exactly the same thing!
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  Were you or someone you know sexually molested by a Jehovah's Witness ?

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?

  remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.

  what about the thousands that don't get caught?

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  Bungi Bill

  A brother whom I once regarded as a close friend turned out to have been molesting one of his stepdaughters from age 7 to age 12.

  This only came to light some twenty-odd years later, when he was taken to court, convicted and sentenced to six years in prison. (By then I had broken with the JWs, and learned about this from a newspaper report).

  The scariest thing for me was that while we were close friends, my two daughters were still only children. At least he never got his filthy paws on them !
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  Did you ever buy into 1975?

  by tornapart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you that can remember.... did you really believe that armageddon was going to come in 1975?

  i was a child of the 60s, in my teens in the 70s and can honestly say that i never bought into it.

  i saw brothers and sisters selling their homes and moving into rented property.

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  I will say this - during the years leading up to 1975, I never heard anybody actually express any doubts about that date. Not one!

  If they weren't actually preaching 1975, then they certainly weren't expressing doubts about it either. Certainly none that I heard, anyway. If such persons were in the majority, then it must have been a silent majority (Make that a bloody silent majority!)
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  Make Your Excellent Point to a JW, But- Remember, it's a Mind Control Cult.

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i am reading from many that they have an excellent thought-stopper for jw's.

  (remember reasoning from the scriptures used "thought-stoppers?

  )"if you just show them [this scripture or use this logic or expose this problem with the organization], you will shut them down.".

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  Bungi Bill

  In this and in other matters, it can be all too easy to forget that human beings are not always rational - perhaps seldom ever rational. Hardly surprising then that appeals to the emotions are more likely to be effective!
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  How many members of Governing Body have college(or higher) degrees?

  by intropist in

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  i just wonder what universities they would have gone to?

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  if possible, former members and current ones separately.... .

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  Bungi Bill

  Former GB

  • Bachelor Degree & Master Degree

  • Lloyd Barry - Unknown College in New Zealand

  Lloyd Barry was a graduate of the University of Otago, in Dunedin.